Wissenschaftlicher Bereich - Scientific-Sector
...um der Bitte zu entsprechen, auch mal etwas Zität-Fähiges zu präsentieren hier ein paar links zu einigen posts von mir in denen ich meine Meinung zu Blog-Beiträgen rund um die Themen Kognition/Gehirn/Geist abgegeben habe. Meist geht es um die Reaktion auf allzu einseitige und/oder euphorische Auslegungen der aktuellen Neuro-Forschung. // in order to satisfy wishes for some citable material here are links to my actual posts about mind/brain/biology/selforganisation/autopoieses and more. Sorry, but only in German so far.
Die Reihenfolge ist eher zufällig - Schaun' Sie was Ihnen davon gefällt und was nachvollhziehbar aussieht:
Kommentar: Ein paar grundlegende Beschreibungen zum Verständnis der Theorie lebender Systeme Maturanas
http://kybernetiks.wordpress.com/2012/06/27/sommer-programm-autopoiesis/ (letztes Viertel)
Brainlogs: Interview Christof Koch über Bewustsein
- 1. post: Das Bewusstsein des Forschers
- 2. post: auf eine Antwort des Redakteurs A. Leyh: mehr Details zum besseren Verständnis
Braincast: Arrvid Leyh über Bewusstsein = Arbeitsgedächtnis?
- post: Beschreibungsfokus für den Neuro-Apparat
Brainlogs: Das Wo und Wann der Neuromodulationen,, Markus A. Dahlem
- post: Verdrehte Beschreibungen
Strenge Jacke: Nchhaltigkeit in der vernetzten Versorgung,
- post: Weis nicht ob's hilft...
Projekt-Blog: (Selbst)Organisation , Vertrauen und die Mathematik der Steuerbarkeit
- post: Ein paar Bemerekung über Selbstorganisation, Selbst-Organisation und Management
- post: Autopoiesis bringt nichts als esoterischer Begriff...
Blick Log: Maturana und Varela, oder was Ökonomen von Biologen über Vorhersagen lernen können
post: ...ein wenig mehr gefällig?
Zukunftspost: Mit oder gegen die Selbstorganisation
post: mir gefällt aus verschiedenen Gründen die Idee, diese Dinge aus der Sicht der Selbstorganisation zu sehen...
post auf: Selbstorganisation hat nichts mit Selbstmanagement zu tun - Unterschied Selbstorganisation und Synergetik
Oeffentliche Vortraege /Public speaches
in der Arbeitsgruppe
Neurophilosophie an der Universitaet Hamburg
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Präsentation.ppt (ca. 11 MB)
A simple description of Self-Organization and Consciousness (2004)
- a short and probably non scientific discourse
about som things that descibes: to live
base on the theory of living systems from H. R. Maturana and H. von Foerster and their teams.
Usually these theories of self-organization and
Autopoiesis are hermetic and unbreakable.
But after the death of Heinz von Foerster and Francisco Varela, and after several cryptic books
ab. this themes time has come to form descriptions that opens the content to a broad public.
They will be published soon with the title: EXISTENCE and avaiable in bookstores.
This spech is a part from it, for the group
Neurophilosophy in the university of Hamburg,
to make such terms as observer and self-equilibration more transparent.
Some critics places this themes to a critical
constructivism. But radical at most are perhaps some
predictions that lays on hand when thinking about this.- and in ref. to thi field everybody is allready
constructing permanently. So this speach cannot become too wild.
But it could be a good idea to eat something before.
The session will end with a discussion about the
relevance of this theories within the
Thinking - Lerning - Consciousness from the view of Self-Organization (2006)
- a part of the actual discussion in the workgroup neurophilosophy about what really is functioning.
Living beings basically control them selfs and
are autonomous.Viewen from outside they are forced
to select. So for every observer they stay on living while consumpting several elements as food and so on.
This contradicts those approaches that mainly ask
for external controllers/reasons and causer of phenomena.
They easily lead to solutions climbing up to such unaccaptable declarations like: man has no free will.
Because if i do accept the other (every other) in a full way without switching into a logic of language that
pleases those neuro-scientists more, it become obvious that the actual neuro-scientists work with a
In the face of ab. 6 bill. persons that heave a chance to play a role in my actual frame of reference - if
i deny their own free will i need not to take any consideration any more. But i AM the 6.Bill.-one on this
planet and i do not accept this!
So i argue for a description ab. the of
phenomena of the dayly life that refers to the theory of self-organization
of H. von Foerster and the theory of living, self-equilibrating systems from H.R. Maturnana (who has had
some speaches at this university).
Such/this systems are working in a fully
self-referential way and i use this functioning to produce
an observer together with the public, that allows to look on our own actual process of recognition..
There are two cathegories that are often related
to this theme: Holism and constructivism.
Both, Maturana and von Foerster often insisted that they don't accept constructivism. (On this
part it dissolves completely).
This speach will show in a pursuable way how speaking/learning/thinking (=existance) work in one
coherent dynamic. As near to that process as it is possible in language. Holism is one of several
similar sub-sections of this dynamic. Nothing else -
and not reverse.
The scientific relevance of this themes is huge, as the mass of internet-links show.
Safety-advise: In this 1,5 to 2 hours nothing
will disappear ore cropped away. All phenomena
you know will stay on, but it could be a change in the suspension.
What remains of Pavlov's theory (binding reflex) from the view of Self-Organization? (2006)
Global critic - controll/automate -
self-equilibring system - learning seen from different points of view -
two models of nature: accumulation of phenomena ore equilibration - what remains of a binding reflex
Looking through the Apparatus of Feelings (2007)
"Feelings are allways!"
So thinking, actioning and planning allways work
through feelings. In this everybody is his own
master. Just the question "what are feelings" can only be answered by someone who him self has
and allready does know feelings. So every approach to let explain my own feelings from someone
external is nonessencial! Because he speaks through a similar nebular as he wants to explain from
and to me. Sometimes that can produce a lot of stories, of wich some can make it into the news
("another big caso of..."), but it is not very evident.
There are some theories within the field of
biology from the 1960ies about controlling, cognition and living
that show that feeling is a required part of a global dynamic of living systems. This is handled in different
ways but cannot be enhanced ore somehow corrected. Living systems control themselves. Every external
person is an observer to this. For him he describes those acting-with-feelings as a coordination of co-
ordination of actions. This is the scientific domain of cybernetics (second order cy.) ore in short:
This does not explain any feeling, but prepares to a lot of strange and unpredicted behavior that people
are confronted with, external and internal.
The theme is complex, feelings are complex (what
else did you expect).
In the theory of self-equilibrating living systems is speeking, feeling and thinking first of all the same (to-
gether with a lot more we simply call senses).
Later on with in the communication and interaction with other beings they will be departed into the
chunks we are used to.
But the patterns of learning this within a lifetime are often similar and recognizable. Today this could
be fixed into words and be observed. That allows beings to plan within a sure state also in difficult
It has become public that you can controll people
very effective in letting-them-let something. Also it has
reached most families that children grow to more usable persons if the parents let them coordinate this
by themselves ("letting them go"). But that there is a biological dynamic, permanently active, that makes
sense for such an coordination of coordination has not gone as popular.
Additionally there are hardly other scientific domains where it is possible to show up in language
global dynamics of the pre-language-area, allowing a realtime-observing of the emerging of actual
speach in reference to predicted patterns.
This discourse shows that in dayly language.
Of course there will be some remarks about the catch-words of this theme:
Desire - love - obsession - trust - exitement - awareness...
Headline: 3001: The Selforganization of live - about the world of pictures of the intellect
The technical term: Selforganization - actual, epistemological, biological
Theory of living systems - as a story
Senses: to feel, to hear, to nose, to taste, to see (german adaptation)
consequences from that: to speek, to think, to feel
the mechanism behind this: muscle-/nerve-cells,
organs/neuronal net are
our differenciatiion of a dynamic self-equilibrating system,
with the product: ME, NOW + HERE
The use of time/lasting, straightness/linearity,
as a cathegory of an observer
The fixation of that in and through sciences as KNOWINGS
Predictions and systems of predictions in
now the world of pictures emerges
- as religion and psychology
THE WORLD as accumulating story of predictions
with external and lasting respronsibility-matrixes
The neutrally spot
Coordinations behind the world of pictures:
self-referentiality and responsibility from a
neutrall point of view.
Coordinations of actions of coordinations of
= cybernetics of cybernetics